Posts Tagged ‘chip key’

Recent Educational Accomplishments

Saturday, March 13th, 2010

Recent educational accomplishments at Steve’s Lock Out:

Back in September 2009 both Steve and Andrew took an automotive locksmith class.  They learned how to easily make keys for cars when no working key is available.  Both have received a certificate for completing the class.  Congrats guys!

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Buying Chip Keys and Remotes Off the Internet

Saturday, January 30th, 2010

I sometimes feel like a nay sayer with many of  the articles I write, however, I feel like I need to inform the general public of situations where they could be taken advantage of.

My topic for this article is remotes and “chip” keys.

First I want to clear up a few things on what a chip key is. They can and are called many different things by vehicle owners, manufacturers and dealers including some four letter words when priced by the consumer who just wants an extra key and didn’t even know their key contained a chip.  Some terms you may have heard are transponder, chip, immobilizer, smart key, computer key, security key, anti-theft, PATS, Sentry key and there are many others. Irregardless of what they are called they are a key with a transponder in them. Below is a key we stock that you can see right through the head of the key. It happens to be a Ford key. And to the right of that a close up of a transponder. Many people are unaware that their is a transponder in their key because it is house in plastic and not visible.

What is a transponder?  The word Transponder itself is a combination of two words; transmitter and responder. Occasionally abbreviated  TPDR, TR, XPNDR or XPDR. When you put your key into your ignition and turn the key. An antenna either on, around or near your ignition transmits a signal to your key. They key then needs to “respond” back with the appropriate signal to let the car know its ok to start.

What is the purpose of a transponder? Simply put, to make your vehicle harder to steal. Forcing the ignition will not allow the car to run like it would on many non transponder vehicles. There are other systems that deture this as well, but I’ll save that for another article.

Ford Chip Key

Clear Ford Key Showing TransponderA Close Up of a Transponder

Transponder From Inside a Key                                                                                                    
Transponder keys are not to be confused with VATS (vehicle anti-theft system) keys. These have what is called a chip in the blade of the key, however, its not a chip its a resister pellet. Still a security feature, but a whole different type of system and much easier to bypass.
VATS Key

VATS Key

And now that we have the basics out of the way we can get to the main subject of this article.
Chip keys are expensive. And many people try to by them off the internet to save some money. Here are some things to think about when buying off the net:
  • Many times when having a chip key made for your vehicle the largest part of the cost is the programming. Or when you have lost your keys all together a key will need to be originated which would also consider into the price. I’ve had customers buy their keys off the internet and then have me cut and program them only to find out it would have been cheaper to just have me do the whole job.

 

  • Are the keys you are buying new? It is a fairly common to do what is called re-chipping or re-blading keys. This is to take the chip from a key like a miscut or used key,  which is usually the most expensive part and put it into a new shell or put a new blade on the key. Where this is all fine and dandy in some keys the chips are not reusable and will not be able to be programmed to your vehicle. One type of chip that comes to mind are the ones used in Chrysler, Dodge, Plymouth and Jeep. These can be reused if the chip is “virginized” using special equipment, however, 9 out of 10 of these sellers don’t even have this equipment, as a matter of fact many locksmiths don’t.

 

  •  What is the return policy? Am I going to be able to contact the seller if I have a problem? Like anything else you get a bad one every once in a while. And this won’t be known until it comes time to program the key.

 

  • Is the seller knowledgeable enough to know which key your car needs? A few vehicles have more than one option on the same year for different chips and it cannot be told until comparing the keys. And what’s worse is the wrong chip can be put into what appears to be the right key.

 

  • Many people want some kind of guarantee on their key, however, most locksmiths won’t warranty a key not bought at their shop. And for good reason. Would you want to be responsible for someone elses mistake?

Feel free to contact us with any additional questions you might have.

Steve’s Lock Out sells and programs chip keys and remotes in the Parsons, Kansas area. Feel free to drop by for an estimate at 1806 Main.

This is Steve signing off.

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Cheaper Isn’t Always Better

Tuesday, January 19th, 2010

Sometimes it pays to listen to your Locksmith and compare the pros and cons and prices before making a decision. Today I’m referring to Auto Locks.  Ignitions, especially, when they fail.  There are some vehicles that failed ignitions are quite common.  We try to keep the most ignitions in stock, but sometimes they aren’t available or you are one of several customers that has called us and they haven’t been restocked yet.  So that means ignitions are sometimes out of stock or are not a regular stock item, however, we can usually have them overnighted if your in a pinch. 

The price we quote you includes:

  1. The service call rate (for the time of day and location of your vehicle). We repair on site unless you bring your vehicle to us. If you bring your vehicle to us then this fee does not apply.
  2. An OEM (Original Equipment  Manufacturer) replacement ignition, we do NOT use cheaply made ignitions. We also do NOT use salvage yard or used ignitions this is only asking for trouble. I state this as a warning as well. I have seen a few shops both locksmith and mechanic use this practice.
  3. The Ignition set to YOUR KEY (when available).
  4. Possibly code cutting of a factory key. If the key is worn this may be needed. This could have even been the reason for the ignition failure. If it is a “chip” key it will also need programmed.
  5. Removal of the old ignition. Many ignitions use what is called an active retainer and must be turned to the “on” position for removal.
  6. Installation of the new ignition
  7. Possibly additional labor. On some vehicles removal of an ignition can be a lengthy process.

We suggest doing it this way.  Why?  For many reasons. Here are a few.

  1. Setting your ignition back to your original key can make generating a key for your vehicle much easier. Therefore, much cheaper in the event that you loose your keys.
  2. One key is convenient. Do you really want 2 separate keys when it should be a 1 key vehicle?
  3. Used locks are just a bad idea. They could fail with the next turn of the key.
  4. Use of a worn key can cause premature failure. Inaccurate keys are hard on locks.

If you decide to shop around, make sure to ask the individual what all is covered in the fees.  Does your vehicle need towed to their location?  Will the replaced ignition be new and set to your original key?  What, if any, additional labor charges are involved.

I hope this article will help you out in making a decision if you personally ever have to deal with this problem.

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Now Providing Remote Shells

Friday, January 15th, 2010

 

4 button shell

For Dodge and Chrysler

 Needing to replace a  remote head key can be exspensive problem.  Whether the problem is a worn or broken key blade or broken shell we can fix your problem economically. Steve’s Lock Out is now providing replacement remote shells for Chrysler, Dodge and Plymouth remote head keys for a fraction of the cost of a new remote head key.

These are the shell and blade only. There is no chip or remote contained in these. The board and buttons will have to be removed from your key and placed into the new shell and the blade cut to your key to work your vehicle. Shells are available for 3, 4, 5 and 6 button remotes head keys.

If a new shell can’t fix your problem we also can provide, cut and program new remote head keys. We also sell the new ”Pod” keys as well as a plethora of other auto keys and remotes.

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Too Many Keys

Sunday, July 19th, 2009

Too many keys? Ya, too many keys….hanging out of your cars ignition.

We’ve touched on reasons for auto ignition failures before and heres another bit of information to make your car that much more worry free.

Heavy or or overstuffed key rings are probably the largest contributor to auto ignition failure. Imagine if you would taking 2 pieces of metal and rubbing them together for a couple of minutes. OK not much happens here. Now take those same pieces of metal and rub them together a couple of hours a day and do that every day for a couple of months. Notice anything now. Not that you are really going to do this, but imagine what would happen to them if you did. You would most likely see substantial wear on them. Much the same thing happens in your car’s ignition and key when you have a heavy key ring. Fixing the key isn’t too bad. Most locksmiths can cut you a key back to factory specifications and have you on your way in a reasonably short amount of time and at not too much expense.  If you  have a “chip” key the cost can go up substantially. However, when an ignition fails it can be a whole new ball game. Ignitions, even ones that don’t use chip keys can be quite expensive. Most brands of autos use the same ignition for cars with and without chip keys. The difference is the antenna near the ignition that picks up the signal from the key.

Locksmiths are not the only ones who fix ignitions. Some mechanics do as well. The difference is most mechanics will put in a randomly keyed ignition and you end up with 2 keys to what should be a one key car. A locksmith, well I can’t say all, but most will key the new ignition back to the original key so you still have a one key car.

I will admit that there are several autos out there that have ignitions in them that are prone to premature failure no matter how careful you are. And failure doesn’t necessarily mean that the ignition will not turn on. I’ve replaced many GM ignitions that failed due to a sensor in the lock. In this case the key will turn on, however, you get a “no crank” situation and a blinking “theft” indicator on the instrument cluster.

Some ways to keep from causing to much wear on your ignition are.

  • Have a separate key ring with just your ignition, door key and remote on.
  • Use a quick disconnect or release type key ring so you can detach you ignition key from the rest of the ring when being used in you vehicle.
Quick Release Key Ring

Quick Release Key Ring

We do not advise simply leaving your key in the ignition in your car. This is just inviting auto theft and many insurance companies will not cover a claim when an auto is stolen in this situation.

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Check Parsons Country Mart Receipts for Steve’s Lock Out Savings

Friday, June 12th, 2009
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Save 10% on programming

If your shopping Country Mart in Parsons, Kansas you should check the back of your receipt for savings on key and remote programming. With this coupon you can save 10% on remote and/or car key programming. Must be an in shop purchase. Call us for a quote on extra keys or remotes for you vehicle today.

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